marigold wrote: Premier 15s to restart on Saturday with adapted laws and no testing https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/54421879 Is this good news for community rugby of the male variety? If the adaptations allow non professional players resume playing surely NCA clubs and below should consider this route.

Edited by Scrumtime - 06 Oct 2020 at 10:07

Robb wrote: I say, in the interests of gender equality, if its good enough for the women then it is good enough for the community men's game.

I quite agree - certainly if things go ok for the next few weeks there is no reason leagues shouldn't start in January.

Also, just read live indoor concerts with crowds to start in London - where's the logic?

EPL are up in arms, justifiably so.

To be fair the RFU is trying to balance players' physical health with their mental health and also the survival of the game. If we simply say don't play until we have a vaccine, how many players will we have left interested in playing the game? Most other sports are opening up and allowing participation and competition. At least by trialling amended rules in the Allianz Premiership we may find a route back to rugby for the larger community sector. The players I talk to are desperate to play, I know of only two who have had to self-isolate because a contact tested positive and there is a view among them that it's worth the risk. The bigger issue will be the spectators who tend to be in the at-risk age groups and so much more cautious about exposure. We need their attendance at matches and the pre- and post-match activities to generate the income needed to pay the players and support staff. Working out how to look after them is the bigger problem, IMHO.

islander wrote: Halliford wrote: To be fair the RFU is trying to balance players' physical health with their mental health and also the survival of the game. If we simply say don't play until we have a vaccine, how many players will we have left interested in playing the game? Most other sports are opening up and allowing participation and competition. At least by trialling amended rules in the Allianz Premiership we may find a route back to rugby for the larger community sector. The players I talk to are desperate to play, I know of only two who have had to self-isolate because a contact tested positive and there is a view among them that it's worth the risk. The bigger issue will be the spectators who tend to be in the at-risk age groups and so much more cautious about exposure. We need their attendance at matches and the pre- and post-match activities to generate the income needed to pay the players and support staff. Working out how to look after them is the bigger problem, IMHO. <div id="ypm-extension" ="ypm-extension"> Well said Halliford - this sort of realistic but can-do attitude is spot-on IMHO. Far better than people wailing about "total madness" and trying to legitimise their views with multiple exclamation marks, or the equally tiresome "meddle with the rules over my dead body" brigade...

One game off already.

Bill, promising news for who? Are we confusing having a test that tells someone they have Covid with taking a vaccine to stop you from contracting it?

Edited by PiffPaff - 09 Oct 2020 at 07:17

Halliford wrote: Given that finding a vaccine that works for another coronavirus - HIV - has been going on for 35 years without success, how long should we wait for a vaccine? We have to learn to live with Covid-19, as we have with other viruses. starting to play may hep us all learn about transmission and immunity.

Interesting point, as the vast majority of younger people who get covid-19 have either no symptoms or very slight perhaps you are correct - let people play (some may chose not t, but that is down to them.

Also allow crowds in - older people such as myself would make our own minds up whether we attend or not.

Basically, let people make their own choices rather than be dictated to!

Young people also live with older ones usually and they look after their parents who are in their seventies that is how it spreads to the high risk groups.

Raider999 wrote: Halliford wrote: Given that finding a vaccine that works for another coronavirus - HIV - has been going on for 35 years without success, how long should we wait for a vaccine? We have to learn to live with Covid-19, as we have with other viruses. starting to play may hep us all learn about transmission and immunity. Interesting point, as the vast majority of younger people who get covid-19 have either no symptoms or very slight perhaps you are correct - let people play (some may chose not t, but that is down to them. Also allow crowds in - older people such as myself would make our own minds up whether we attend or not. Basically, let people make their own choices rather than be dictated to!

Nothing to do with money at all....not sure where you got that from.