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Poll Question: Which of the following Cup Formats do you favour?
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    Posted: 14 Oct 2021 at 08:23
I'm sure there are other formats so if I have missed something obvious put it down to age.
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If not the PRO D2 then the Prem A
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The Powergen Challenge Cup/Shield competition for me
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Ah, c'mon.
Just make it a 16 team league. No messing about.
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Totally agree with Kimbo.  If Blues are grouped with Ampthill we will have played them 6 times  (including friendlies) this season. That said from a financial point of view, no doubt both will be more than happy.
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Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Ah, c'mon.
Just make it a 16 team league. No messing about.
Absolutely agree, home or away match every week, September to May.
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Originally posted by Cricks at 2 Cricks at 2 wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Ah, c'mon.
Just make it a 16 team league. No messing about.
Absolutely agree, home or away match every week, September to May.
My concern with 16 is it requires 5 more teams from Nat 1 or 6 if we lose Ealing or one of the other contenders. We could easily end up with cricket score miss-matches and a real drop in standards. The present cohort of 11 are fairly well matched - I accept Scottish are struggling but I expect them to come good in due course - I don't want to see easy wins being the norm and would rather see matches won or lost by a few points between teams in the Championship.
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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Cricks at 2 Cricks at 2 wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Ah, c'mon.
Just make it a 16 team league. No messing about.
Absolutely agree, home or away match every week, September to May.
My concern with 16 is it requires 5 more teams from Nat 1 or 6 if we lose Ealing or one of the other contenders. We could easily end up with cricket score miss-matches and a real drop in standards. The present cohort of 11 are fairly well matched - I accept Scottish are struggling but I expect them to come good in due course - I don't want to see easy wins being the norm and would rather see matches won or lost by a few points between teams in the Championship.

I think there are five teams in Nat 1 that could readily stand up to the test and seeing as the Championship is destined to be semi-professional (thanks RFU) this is not a bad call.
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14 team leagues leaves gaps for recuperating or rearranging cancellations 
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Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

14 team leagues leaves gaps for recuperating or rearranging cancellations 

That would be my preference as a starter.
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If you play into May there are 38 weeks.
Nat 1 worked well with 16 teams and stopping at the end of April.

I doubt there would be many cricket scores - Ampthill and Richmond were not running them up in their last seasons in National 1, even against the sides that would be left out. It is not as though the promoted sides would not use whatever extra funding came with promotion to recruit.

I admit that an Ealing A side beat Rosslyn Park in the pre-Season, but I would think they might beat several of the Championship sides.
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Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

14 team leagues leaves gaps for recuperating or rearranging cancellations 
30 matches per season isn't exactly cramming into 36 weekends is it? (35 even if you take out Christmas weekend, which I know a lot of folk would like to keep).
How many postponements do we get these days? Not that many, surely?
Supporters want real, competetive, meaningful, matches, against teams they haven't already seen two, three, four times already.
The argument re. diluting the RFU handout has largely gone away too, now.
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I appear to have posted my thoughts (thinking stuff through while composing) at much the same time, and broadky in agreement.
Maybe I miscounted (was doing it roughly, in my head, so could well be) but 38 weeks makes the argument even stronger if that's the case (Further, I now note the Prem season finishes on the first weekend of June this year).
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14 team league and NO Cup competition would be my choice.
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Originally posted by Westcoaster Westcoaster wrote:

14 team league and NO Cup competition would be my choice.



All leagues below and above the championship will be 14 teams - why should the championship be any different.

This would mean the champions going into the Premiership and the top 4 N1 sides being promoted to the championship.

So simple even the RFU could organise it so what is the Championship sides problems.

I cannot see the problem - if the Championship sides think they are that much better than the top 4 in N1 then they should never be in the relegation zone.

Smacks of arrogance in my book, especially when you consider Doncaster, Coventry, Ampthill and Hartpury were in N1 not that long ago.

I suspect the top 4 N1 sides would be competitive, after all they are likely to strengthen their current sides.

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A 14 team Championship league would be my choice too. Definitely no cup competition unless it was a straight knockout competition between the top 64 clubs from the Championship downwards, similar to football’s FA Cup. This would mean 26 league games and a possible 6 additional cup games for a few clubs.
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Raider I have no misconceptions about what the championship is - the teams in this league have no rights to demand anything other than what has been agreed. The Nat 1 teams are primarily all very strong and many would do well at this level.

16/14 teams makes no difference just getting a league that is suitable and sustainable. Don’t think that is too much to ask. 

Maybe you should look through impartial eyes occasionally rather than with whatever issue you have with this league. It is rugby and I believe we all want what is best for the game
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Maybe you should look through impartial eyes occasionally rather than with whatever issue you have with this league. It is rugby and I believe we all want what is best for the game
Good luck with that.
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Whilst French teams might be above us in playing standards, I assume a gulf exists between Championship and Italy Top 10? 
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Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Maybe you should look through impartial eyes occasionally rather than with whatever issue you have with this league. It is rugby and I believe we all want what is best for the game
Good luck with that.
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