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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 12032 |
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Having watched another boring match where sides spend most of their time kicking the ball away, I have to ask is it time to make the ball less aerodynamic? If you could only kick 20 metres, would you be more likely to pick the ball up and run? Also has anyone seen a proper drop kick in the wild? I am sure most of the kick offs and drop outs are punted. Finally, can we have kicks taken behind the mark? As opposed to starting on the mark and taking several steps forward before releasing the ball. |
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Kimbo ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: 'incleh Status: Offline Points: 6636 |
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Yep, fill the ball with sand and soak it in wine.
Oh, no, that's Georgia, innit?
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4536 |
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Certainly agree with the last point, it is something I have commented on a number of times and seems to be accepted by referees these days. |
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'Hopper ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Preston Grasshoppers Joined: 24 Oct 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1512 |
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Ban the Caterpillar for a start. That might cut down one form of kicking.
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What if the Hokey Kokey really IS what it's all about?
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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 12032 |
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'Hopper that is simple. The 9 is offside when they encroach beyond the back feet to position the ball. Anyone in the ruck must be fully bound from hand to shoulder. No player in the ruck may use their hands.
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1691 |
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Drop goals are becoming a lost art. Both at international and community level and I'd love to see them make a comeback
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Count Ford ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 20 May 2017 Location: WA4 Status: Offline Points: 412 |
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Maybe "the mark' should be allowed anywhere in your own half to try and put a stop to games turning into a procession of box kicks
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Rucking Idiot ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Jun 2016 Location: Sidcup Status: Offline Points: 150 |
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Or we could go back to 60's with a laced up pigs bladder when the ball had to last the whole season. Then after Christmas it was like playing with a wet sponge, but brilliant for mauls. OH happy days...
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If it looks like a duck & quacks like a duck it's just my rucking luck!
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1691 |
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Good idea, bringing it back like it used to be 50 years ago. Might even be able to bring back the obsolete "goal from mark" as a scoring method.
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workerbee ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2009 Location: Wirral Status: Offline Points: 948 |
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Nigel Owens , last season called the ball out as soon as the No 9 touched the ball with his hand this would speed up the play and give the opposition time to break to charge down the kick. I have not seen that this season. I also think that the length of the Ruck needs to be looked at may be that a player is only in the rugby if he is bound onto more than one player that would shorten the ruck. However I think that there is an issue of the back foot especially with the mid field that seem to be off side at most rucks. It would be an interesting exercise if the TV would put the offside line on the screen as they do with the gain line and that would at least highlight the issue. I suppose it is the assistant ref who calls it.
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Puli. ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Location: East Yorkshire. Status: Offline Points: 2700 |
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Assistant Refs appear to ignore this law as well ........
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If Rugby is the game they play in Heaven ..... Why does it hurt like Hell when you retire?
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Pappashanga ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2014 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 2167 |
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Four points for a drop goal.
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Runitback ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2014 Location: North Status: Offline Points: 1229 |
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Totally agree with:
No to Catepillar Calling Mark anywhere in your own half And use the early eighties Gilbert Match I find the sneaking forward from the mark reprehensible, players always in front of the kicker at restarts. No kicking tees, or if so very small as with the elevation the ball makes it is very easy to kick goals. Particularly as this encourages cheating at the scrum to win penalties to kick at goal. How many games are won by technical (dubious) penalties rather than brilliant open rugby?
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Run with it
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Guinness John ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 May 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1303 |
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Absolutely agree, waiting for 1, no two, even 3 to join on, it should be stopped.
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4536 |
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I know what you mean, however on the line is outside the field of play. |
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Puli. ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Location: East Yorkshire. Status: Offline Points: 2700 |
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Raider999 .... at the weekend it was a case of not on the line but well over it. Minor point I know compared with some other problems but the laws are there to be adhered to.
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If Rugby is the game they play in Heaven ..... Why does it hurt like Hell when you retire?
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4536 |
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Didn't spot that - but the TJ should have otherwise is there any point in him being there? |
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Richard Lowther ![]() Coaching staff ![]() ![]() Moderator Joined: 19 May 2007 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 6634 |
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There's many elements of the game which make it boring to watch - and probably for some to play.
The pick and go and the constant need to go back into contact rather than move the ball into space frustrates the living daylights out of me. As my late father used to say, "They are dodgems not bumper cars" meaning the aim was to avoid contact not look for it. Kicks if they have a purpose are fine, but most box kicks happen because the scrum half doesn't look for other options. When was the last time a scrum half dived pass? Would a heavier ball eliminate kicking? Would the reduction of replacements see the game improve as more players would have to play for the full 80 and those who tire quicker would create gaps for teams and hoepfully stop the amount of kicks.
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Richard Lowther ![]() Coaching staff ![]() ![]() Moderator Joined: 19 May 2007 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 6634 |
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No! Have marks return to the player being still with a boot in the ground.
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oneagainstthehead ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 2015 Location: West London Status: Offline Points: 740 |
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Dive passes? Mark with heel dug in? It’ll be three point tries and toe punt conversion before we know it!
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