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Dalesman ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 May 2007 Location: Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 678 |
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Reading the Minimum Standards doc for Tier 2 above linked, we have to have a minimum 2000 capacity, 200 min seated, 500 minimum covered places.
Do all current Champ clubs meet this standard? Caldy, Amthill for example.....
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Kimbo ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: 'incleh Status: Offline Points: 6644 |
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No they don't, but the seating and covered aspects are relatively easy to deal with with temp stands. I'm pretty sure all have at least 2000 capacity, but stand to be corrected.
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Noiseyblue ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() Joined: 03 May 2025 Location: Bedford Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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When Bedford recently played Ampthill over there the attendance was 2104
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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 5602 |
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These were the standards about 15+ years ago for full National One RFU funding of £75,000
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Dalesman ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 May 2007 Location: Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 678 |
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No FHLH - the document is headed "Minimum operating standards for Tier 2 2025-26"
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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 5602 |
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To qualify for full RFU funding for National One were more onerous - 500 seated. The £75,000 was split into elements which came with money. The seating requirements should come as no surprise to current Championship clubs other than those who were not at Level 3 in 2006. The only difference is the covered element . Edited by FHLH - 19 May 2025 at 15:53 |
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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FlyingRuck ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Mar 2020 Location: Sidcup Status: Offline Points: 158 |
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French Pro D2 puts everything into some sort of perspective
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See you further on up the road
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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 5602 |
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If the Premiership funding pot has been agreed for the next 7? years how will the expanded Prem I and Prem II be funded in the future?
Will the newly promoted Champ side get £m and will the relegated Prem side retain parachute funding? Devil in the detail.
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Bluesman11 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 13 May 2008 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1167 |
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Not sure if this warrants its own thread, but apparently premier sports are looking to get the tv rights to champ rugby next season to go alongside Pro D2. Not sure what this would mean for Ealing’s (and Pirates) plan to stream all their games next season.
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cheshire exile ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Status: Offline Points: 2621 |
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Pirates’ streams are now free to view.
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FinnBlue ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() Joined: 23 May 2025 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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Do premier sports have ProD2, I thought it was being streamed on a YouTube channel related to eggchasers from next season
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semisonic ![]() First XV regular ![]() Joined: 11 Dec 2017 Location: Birmingham Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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Premier Sports do not have the rights to ProD2 in the UK, which is held by the FR-UK YouTube channel (with Tim c.o.c.k.e.r of the Eggchasers Podcast and formerly BT Sports) but may have them in Ireland?
They do have a wide range of rugby now including URC, Top 14, Japanese League One and US Major League Rugby along with the EPRC Champions and Challenge Cups. If it's cheap enough (and from the Worcester forum report it's clear there's no real competition with no deal in place yet) I could see it happening - but would it mean a move from Saturday games for the Champ? Clearly URC and seemingly Top 14 would be prioritised on non-European Weekends, and there's not much point paying for rights to a 2nd/3rd Choice game on a Saturday afternoon when you already have two of the top domestic rugby leagues.
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 7881 |
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Still lots of people referring to "Prem 2/ Prem II" - in spite of any notion of a French-style joined-up two-tier system having dropped off the agenda recently.
The top tier continues to make noises about expanding via a franchise system, and keeps the minimum standards in place, while the second tier has confirmed it's rebranding and expanding. I'd argue the end of the 24/25 season this week might be the occasion to discontinue the misleading references to Prem 2...
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 2983 |
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Interesting to me that the head of the Champ board is part of French rugby and has helped introduce a season structure identical to Pro D2, but the next level up has ignored it almost completely. I would argue that a clever/competent RFU exec would cut the prem adrift and quit subsidising 10 franchises thay have nothing to do with the rest of the rugby in the country.
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TeflonTed ![]() First XV squad ![]() Joined: 13 Apr 2025 Location: Worcs Status: Offline Points: 37 |
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Agree with islanders, like it or not it’s Champ Rugby.
And while we’re on the subject of names, I still don’t understand the use of “franchise” re. Premiership future development. A ringfenced, invitation only (subject to conditions) league is not a franchise. Even if RFU/PRL supply extra start up money to tempt clubs in, it’s not a franchise. “A franchise is a type of license that grants a franchisee access to a franchisor's proprietary business knowledge, processes, and trademarks, thus allowing the franchisee to sell a product or service under the franchisor's business name.” McDonald’s and Subway are a franchise. Premiership clubs will want far more freedom and control over what they do and how they do it. |
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TeflonTed, 2 miles from Sixways
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 2983 |
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...and your point makes Bill Sweeney a rube for continuing to fund the PRL clubs. If they were all working together for the common good of the league, then you might say it made sense to fund them on the premises that a rising tide lifts all boats. But you are right that they all want to do their own thing; hence you have clubs that under invest, and others that go all out. The only thing they can agree on is that they want to avoid relegation.
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 7881 |
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didn't know this word, which the merriam/Webster dictionary (via Google) tells me stems from your neck-of-the-woods Greg. Like it! A rube is a country bumpkin (peasantly, peasantish) or an inexperienced, unsophisticated person.
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ROLLO ![]() Academy player ![]() Joined: 17 Apr 2025 Location: Worcester Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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Rugby coverage on Premier Sports is OK providing you can get a decently priced package which I was fortunate to do.
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Stalwart* ![]() First XV regular ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 2024 Location: Penzance Status: Offline Points: 123 |
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I started with a free two month trial. Then, when I cancelled I was offered a further two months for half price (£7.99 per month). At the end of that I cancelled again and was offered the same thing again! |
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