RFU Back to Rugby survey
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Topic: RFU Back to Rugby survey
Posted By: Camp Freddie
Subject: RFU Back to Rugby survey
Date Posted: 13 May 2020 at 11:45
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Has anyone taken the latest survey yet ? I thought it would be addressing how we feel about getting back to rugby in our clubs but as you get further into it it quickly turns in to the RFU wanting to know if they will fill the stadium for the Autumn Internationals. This survey has nothing to do with grassroots rugby and everything to do with topping up the coffers. ------------- The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom. |
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Posted By: hills17
Date Posted: 13 May 2020 at 12:33
| Yes seen that Freddie, went through the questions and all about watching rugby on TV or at HQ. One question refers to community clubs in the answers. Not sure how they can gauge the feel for the community game in the survey. |
Posted By: Neasham
Date Posted: 13 May 2020 at 18:03
| We all have our own clubs which are central to our thoughts and so does Twickenham - their club is called England |
Posted By: Camp Freddie
Date Posted: 13 May 2020 at 18:51
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Hi Neasham, Sorry but I don't agree that England are the RFU's Club. There are 2000+ clubs in the Union who all have an equal share and say in what should go on. England are the representative team of us, the union. ------------- The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom. |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 13 May 2020 at 19:49
+1 ------------- Our Club |
Camp Freddie wrote:Posted By: Neasham
Date Posted: 13 May 2020 at 22:04
Of course? but perhaps I didn’t make my point very well. Most communications I get from the RFU are all about England and Eddie and very little about the rest of the game. Hence a survey you assume to be about the whole game is really all about getting England games back on at Twickers (important though that is in revenue terms) and very little else.
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Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 06:15
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Its almost like, the RFU or to give them their shiny new-ish moniker they started using a few years back England Rugby think they are a professional sports team and not a governing body. ------------- Crouch, Bind, Tweet! |
Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 07:30
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Apologies for my ignorance but I can only find a survey from January 2020.Could someone put a link on here please.
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Posted By: Neasham
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 09:02
Thank you. You have put it far more succinctly than I.
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Posted By: Camp Freddie
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 09:39
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Kingsheathlad, here you go. https://englandrugby.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_eJoJCKJ9cburrGB?spMailingID=9392131&spUserID=MjE2NTAyMTMyNDM4S0&spJobID=1511693421&spReportId=MTUxMTY5MzQyMQS2&fbclid=IwAR3HBbxCn8fioyKWJKbysZfnD1RKVus00Lk_FKzaOZTQSVBEGGdimaKxxBo%20" rel="nofollow - https://englandrugby.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_eJoJCKJ9cburrGB?spMailingID=9392131&spUserID=MjE2NTAyMTMyNDM4S0&spJobID=1511693421&spReportId=MTUxMTY5MzQyMQS2&fbclid=IwAR3HBbxCn8fioyKWJKbysZfnD1RKVus00Lk_FKzaOZTQSVBEGGdimaKxxBo
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Posted By: Cannon
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 09:47
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What an awful survey, totally misogynistic to the National team! ------------- Rucks and mauls may bust my balls, but whips and chains excite me!! |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 10:06
You were warned  ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Cannon
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 10:49
TBH, I was expecting it to be as pointless as the Paying of Players review that came out last month - but this took the biscuit!! ------------- Rucks and mauls may bust my balls, but whips and chains excite me!! |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 18:07
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Where do you watch your rugby - at my club ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: sidelined
Date Posted: 14 May 2020 at 19:58
I wonder if "anywhere but Twickenham" is an acceptable answer? |
Posted By: Bill Sley
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 06:52
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Mmmm.....It felt I wasn't much use to the RFU: Q:'During last season, which of the following best describes your main involvement in rugby?' A: I played rugby; my children played rugby; I coached a rugby team; I was a match official; I had an admin role in a rugby club; None of the above I've done all the above in previous seasons, but had to select 'none of the above' and by inference make no useful involvement?? Surely a question about paying to watch club rugby/propping up the bar takings could be added & be useful. It seems watching more rugby on telly is more valuable than supporting your local club. |
Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 08:10
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Oh dear that wasn't good. ☹️
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Posted By: GazJo12
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 08:13
Totally agree with you. |
Posted By: backrowb
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 08:37
| Incredibly poor from the RFU |
Posted By: Golden Jackal
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 10:47
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Gents, many thanks for the affirmation.... I thought it was me thinking that I would be asked about my club and my thoughts, rather than England and the Premiership!
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 11:26
Let's think. Would I sit in a 82000 crowd, any number of whom may have the virus, with the risks involved in the foreseeable future? No Would I pay £70-140 for the privilege of doing so? Definitely not Would I like to watch the game on TV? Yes ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: sidelined
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 11:57
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As much as I love rugby, I'm not sure I want to watch it on TV with no crowd. A major part of the game is the crowd interaction and the passion generated by the supporters.
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Posted By: Blutarsky
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 15:41
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I emailed the RFU to say the survey seemed purely focused on TV audiences and the national team. I stated I thought it should have asked about the community game. The response I received was that I probably hadn't been asked about the community game as my first few answers, about how I am involved with rugby, may have suggested I'm not involved in the community game. Since I am a current national league player, and selected that option, it is hard to see how much more involved in the community game I could be than running around tackling people on a Saturday afternoon. RFU committee members only care about their days out at Twickenham.
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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 15:50
| I have to say, I thought the questions gave quite a broad coverage of the game at various levels without too much emphasis on any of them. Some club, some international, only one about Twickenham itself - but I don't know what algorithm they used to send me down that route compared to others. |
Posted By: Bill Sley
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 05:46
That sounds like there are different questions depending on your answers? I'll try it again (there doesn't seem to be any limit on having a go) and try to pretend I'm involved in the community game....maybe say I'm a Mini & Junior coach? Update: Yes it does. I'm pretending to have an admin job and am a CB rep. Some odd questions 'do you want a loan' etc until it goes back to the 'do you want to come to watch a game at Twickers/on the telly'. |
Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 07:25
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Wow, therefore a Social Profiling survey. Remember when former Home Secretary Michael Howard was described as having "something of the night about him." Well this survey has "something of the Cambridge Analytica about it" By going down the selective question route the survey responses will swing from:- Hot Dogs, 25 minute Games, Half a Game, British Bull-Dog, Debenture Holder, Bigger Leg Room in the West Stand, Bollinger, County games, No County Games, Stay at home watch on TV, go to the game, play it on my PS4, pay up to £150 for a International Ticket, Pay no more than £75 for a International Ticket, all games at Twickenham, no games at Twickenham, play some games away from Twickenham, no relegation, yes relegation, salary cap, no salary cap, fizzy pop....... Second thoughts maybe they are auto-writing the PMs next speech? ------------- Crouch, Bind, Tweet! |
Posted By: 373
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 08:11
How exactly? It’s a questionnaire that uses skip logic, exactly the same as a analog version that states ‘if yes go to section 2’. It’s hardly ground breaking. Seems everyone gets asked the Twickenham questions regardless, but it stands to reason that someone filling in an RFU survey might be a tad more relevant person to ask that question to opposed to anyone off the street.
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Posted By: Camp Freddie
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 09:56
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373, I would suggest then that some of the skip logic if flawed. I started the thread as I was questioned about attending games and not about the Community Game. I'm a CB Secretary and my interest is solely helping the community game. ------------- The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom. |
Posted By: Neasham
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 11:44
| I no longer have a formal role but entered my previous committee role and it took me down the Twickenham route. I would have been much happier if I’d been asked questions about club rugby (don’t like the “community” description.) |
Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 08:00
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ok can any one say this isn't fishy smelling? Survey ends, following day the Telegraph are reporting this...... Great a survey about the game, asking "stakeholders"? seems to have been sent to the Press quicker than you can say "This survey was nothing to do with the game, community or otherwise, its all about ££££££s" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2020/05/19/england-rugby-fans-could-forced-wear-masks-twickenham-rugby/" rel="nofollow - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2020/05/19/england-rugby-fans-could-forced-wear-masks-twickenham-rugby/ ------------- Crouch, Bind, Tweet! |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 10:00
Think that just about sums it up. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Guinness John
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 10:56
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I take it the bars will be closed, with the 2 metre rule, masks etc.
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Posted By: knightandday
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 13:19
No the bars will be open. RFU branded facemasks with built in drinking straws will be mandatory at the unbelievably cheap price of £24.99 ------------- Winning isn't everything, it just makes the beer taste better |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 14:57
Someone has beaten https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/a-face-mask-with-a-straw-hole-for-sipping-drinks-has-everyone-making-the-same-joke/" rel="nofollow - you to it  ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: knightandday
Date Posted: 21 May 2020 at 18:36
Bu99er, thought I was on to winner there. ------------- Winning isn't everything, it just makes the beer taste better |
Posted By: Camp Freddie
Date Posted: 22 May 2020 at 15:35
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I understand the RFU have calculated that if they stick to the 2m social distancing rule then the capacity will drop from 82000 to 5000. To make ends meet that would mean a £100 ticket selling for £1640.
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 22 May 2020 at 16:48
And a beer for £80 per pint  ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: CJB1
Date Posted: 22 May 2020 at 17:00
Just like Norway then ------------- "What I need is a strong drink and a peer group" |