Ampthill
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Topic: Ampthill
Posted By: The Blues
Subject: Ampthill
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 19:54
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5 weeks away from the “start” and still no fixture list. https://www.ampthillrufc.com/arufc-request-for-help/" rel="nofollow - https://www.ampthillrufc.com/arufc-request-for-help/
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Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 20:32
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Fixture List? The next action I will see will be September 2021. Missing Goldington Road. Sadly I still believe Capacity will be limited to 1,000 through the 21/22 season. ------------- The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused. |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 21:09
Assuming we do play, I will buy a season ticket for the live streaming of the matches. My point is if there is no fixture list, clubs can’t prepare properly. Although the season will be the most pointless one yet. It they also had a fixture list they could at least start generating some income now selling online packages.
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kempstonblue wrote:Posted By: AmpthillRUFC
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 22:18
| Thank you for sharing this. Fixtures are the least of clubs concerns at present - we know who are in our conferences. However we all need to get to the start line. Watch this space! |
Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 11:55
| Not sure we do know who will actually be in the conferences. Given the content of the Ampthill statement regarding no grants surely it would be no surprise if some of the other clubs decided they could not afford to play. With no relegation why would you spend money you do not have on a meaningless season? |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 12:43
Well posted mate. There is unlikely to be any spare money going towards the Championship in the near future so real supporters need to follow your example and support teams financially by buying season tickets, paying to watch streamed games even if there is a alternative match on Sky or BT and any other imaginative way clubs come up with to see them over this period. It may go against the grain to pay more than we have done in the past for so little rugby on offer today but if we don't there may be nothing to look forward to. ------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 13:17
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I renewed my season ticket at the end of the last, truncated, season, with no real confidence that 20/21 would actually happen.
I still have no idea if I will be able to use my ticket this season, but have my doubts. Streaming is not for me - but I suppose if that's all that is on offer... ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Dalesman
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 13:28
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I did not think streaming would be for me either but i paid my money and watched the Knights vs Ealing game yesterday. Have to say the quality of the streaming was very good - plenty of camera angles, good replays, and a pretty decent commentary. I would do it again. |
Posted By: steve p
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 16:54
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cant see any rugby starting till september for championship and below |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 17:52
I get that, but, it's just not the same is it? If that's all that's on offer I think I'd rather wait until September (and yes, I realise that doesn't help the club's bottom line). ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Elijah Cadman
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2021 at 08:52
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Thought champs clubs met end of last week and decision was due, sadly doesnt look like any champs rugby this season, especially when you read the Ampthill statement? Mind you heres hoping this pandemic is being got on top of by next season, as September looking less and less likely also, unless things change radically. Sad times for so many.
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Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2021 at 09:30
Meeting was yesterday afternoon.... news will be out today officially ..... Unofficially: Going to be a 5 team league ... |
Posted By: Elijah Cadman
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2021 at 09:41
Meeting was yesterday afternoon.... news will be out today officially ..... Unofficially: Going to be a 5 team league ... O Wow surprised! So just one league of five teams?
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Posted By: Member728
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2021 at 11:11
| https://www.richmondfc.co.uk/news/richmond-to-play-championship-season-2597455.html%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.richmondfc.co.uk/news/richmond-to-play-championship-season-2597455.html |
Posted By: TAS63
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2021 at 12:06
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Got to be more than 5 hasn't it? Saracens, Ealing and Doncaster clearly ready to play. Richmond confirmation is above Coventry have just done the same https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/rugby/coventry-rugby-club-championship-19750461" rel="nofollow - https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/rugby/coventry-rugby-club-championship-19750461 Pirates confirmed yesterday they will be ready for 6th March, as did Nottingham https://cornish-pirates.com/rugby/20-21-season-update/" rel="nofollow - https://cornish-pirates.com/rugby/20-21-season-update/ https://www.nottinghamrugby.co.uk/nottingham-rugby-confirm-participation-in-championship" rel="nofollow - https://www.nottinghamrugby.co.uk/nottingham-rugby-confirm-participation-in-championship Have to assume that the Bedford announcement of 12 players from Northampton yesterday is a positive sign of intent. I think it would be surprise if Jersey didn't confirm from their signings and activity todate Clearly Ampthill concerned. Which leaves London Scottish and Hartpury that I couldn't find anything from ..... yet |
Posted By: hills17
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2021 at 12:11
5 team league as in two conferences maybe? It was going to be 6, two clubs not taking part?!
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Posted By: High Heidjin
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2021 at 14:55
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London Scottish decide not to take part in the current GKIPA season - https://www.londonscottish.com/london-scottish-decline-dcms-loans-to-play-1st-xv/ Sensible approach from a financial perspective. Not sure why other teams wouldn't do the same under current circumstances
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2021 at 15:21
Totally agree. We all want to see rugby but not at any cost.
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Posted By: Bill Sley
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2021 at 16:18
| Perhaps being an 'outsider' I don't understand the full story, but what's in it for any club apart from Saracens? It seems like a bill for £200k++ (judging by costs of testing/players off furlough/travel etc) that can be paid off over 10 years. |
Posted By: Stalwart
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2021 at 16:49
Presumably some help has come from Sport England. I can't see that the club would take part if they thought it would not be financially viable. The Pirates statement says: "Following a lengthy application and negotiation process with Sport England, Cornish Pirates are delighted to report that we will be taking our place in the Championship 2020/21 season, due to start on 6th March 2021." |
Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 08:00
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What is going to be very interesting is Hartpury. How are they going to get away with paying this amount out to get tested?? As we all know they use the Uni's money to fund the rugby, in normal times they tack it onto or along side the Uni team. With the state of University's and the issues they have, along with no sport what so ever for students , are they (uni) going to allow the rugby club to spend this amount of money on testing. Or are they going to be Gov funded, if that's the case its not a level playing field with sides like Ampthill and Scottish having to go one route and possible not be able to take part, but because you have access to a Gov funded Uni, you can take your place! |
Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 09:48
| It never is a level playing field with Hartpury. They have state of the art training, playing, s and c and analysis facilities all provided by the taxpayer. I am sure some 'educational' fund will be found to finance their testing. |
Posted By: High Heidjin
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 10:06
The 'help' that has come from Sport England is in the form of loans. No grants. So each club is saddling itself with additional debt at a time (this season anyway) when there is virtually no chance of generating any income except from loyal sponsors. As a purely business case, it just doesn't add up ! ------------- The Inner Game Will Win Every Time |
Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 10:09
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I feel for all the Championship clubs other than Ealing and Sarries, I think huge pressure was put on them to have a season. It really makes no sense what so ever, no crowds, no bar and no financial support . . no relegation! But I am delighted we will be able to watch some rugby . .. ------------- Run with it |
Posted By: Stalwart
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 11:01
Our backer is a very savvy businessman and I'm sure the case must add up or he wouldn't have done it.
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Posted By: clieves
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 12:50
| Where does the £120k testing figure come from? The lateral flow tests cost approx £15 each, if you have to test a squad of players and coaches (say 40 total) twice a week for 16 weeks, that comes to just under £20k, not £120k ... Am I missing something ? |
Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 13:14
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Clieves a mate involved at prem club. The Prem and Cham have to use PCR lab based tests at £85 per test. During the playing season the clubs have to do 2 per week. Players plus medics, coaches, managers and analysts closer to 50 people per week. For Champ one month until season starts 50x 85x 4 = 17k Season 12 weeks x 50 x 170 = 102 k. Ouch! |
Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 13:33
Just as a general observation (so quoting you but not aimed at you particularly) I wouldn't have said savvy businessmen tend to get involved in sport! I'm also reminded of the advice to lottery winners to plough money into any club other than the one you support, because you're too close to it and lose objectivity. On the other hand I'm sympathetic to the 'pressure to play' point made earlier in the thread. On any other level a decision to play by clubs smacks of exactly the sort of amateurish set-up that the Championship (or to be fair any level below the Premiership) is frequently accused of. It can't make rational sense so there's three options: - it adds up in a way that mere mortals can't see (and if it adds up then obviously good luck to them) - owners have taken leave of their senses - there's immense pressure to do something this season from whatever quarter, and the bills are just going to have to be worried about later. My money's on the last one. ------------- keep the faith |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 14:47
Perhaps the clubs can gang together and demand Saracens pay them £50k each to cover some of the costs as they are the perceived beneficiaries of any rugby being played  ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Scrum Chimp
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 15:34
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Very disappointed that Scottish won't be participating but nevertheless they have made the right decision here. Why take on a large debt just to help Saracens get promoted? Does this mean that Scottish have already played their last home game at the RAG before heading off to Esher?
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